Gary's Metal Detecting Forum
Gary's Detecting forum => General detecting talk => Topic started by: Keith67 on January 24, 2018, 06:35 pm
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People are trying to catch up with the Deus. The Nokta units have come along, and the Quest Pro is not far away (another with multiple frequencies) but the problem is, XP have taken it further with the HF coil option, while many of the wireless lightweight contenders coming out now are still stopping at 18/19khz.
There are so many good reports on the Deus at 28khz, and the Equinox 800 will have 40khz, subject to the latter being as good as they boast, these two machines will be above the competition IMHO due to those high frequency options.
How many more to come? A lot I reckon!!
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Equinox 800 that’s due spring 2020 I believe
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Equinox 800 that’s due spring 2020 I believe
That early....really.... ;D ;D
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On Sunday night I was talking to a mate who's been out with the Minelab boys. He's impressed with the machines but they are still ironing out the bugs. He intends to buy one, but not the first batch.
Anyway, back to the topic, IMHO more manufacturers are going to have to follow suit. The Deus was unique for a time, but now I think this design will become the norm.
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With the new bluetooth and wireless technology its bound to be the way forward.
I can remember using a "swan neck" C Scope machine. I think it was a TR650D, and you had to see re-tuning it using a red button on the top of the handle !!!! 8)
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On Sunday night I was talking to a mate who's been out with the Minelab boys. He's impressed with the machines but they are still ironing out the bugs. He intends to buy one, but not the first batch.
Sounds a sensible move. Is the Equinox updatable, making any early issues remediable, should there be any?
I'll admit, I will probably cave in and get one in due course. The 40kHz option on an 11" coil sounds good (there will be an optional 15 x 12 coil available too) and the ability to go from 40kHz down to 5 without changing coils is a nice feature too.
(Plus, it's fun to have a new toy... :-[)
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Many new toys coming along, we're heading in to a tech race which potentially could be good for detectorists, as a lot of these new devices are competitively priced.
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All these new hi tec detectors has anyone realised one day we will run out of Artefacts
No Romans or medieval folk left in my neck of the woods .
Roll on the tests of the new Mackro
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At times, I think that we are just pawns as others take advantage of our addiction. ;) :) Jerry.
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At times, I think that we are just pawns as others take advantage of our addiction. ;) :) Jerry.
The term Leemings springs to mind ;D :D ;D ;D
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I've managed to get the weight right down on my White's V3i, am now left with just the headphones and a couple of bent coat hangers ;D
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At times, I think that we are just pawns as others take advantage of our addiction. ;) :) Jerry.
The term Leemings springs to mind ;D :D ;D ;D
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It's the same with a lot of pursuits, you should see how much money some of my mates spend on upgrading golf clubs!!
The Deus was a godsend for some people, just because of how light it is and easy to use, it's no bad thing to see more machines coming out the same way IMHO.
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But most of them are re hashes of the same thing. Normally based around the F75 / T2 circuit, originating from China.
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I've managed to get the weight right down on my White's V3i, am now left with just the headphones and a couple of bent coat hangers ;D
I'm down to just one coat hanger and mind control. Its the spade im having trouble with.
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But most of them are re hashes of the same thing. Normally based around the F75 / T2 circuit, originating from China.
I'm not suggesting they all have the tech of the Deus Gary, but if manufacturers are making lightweight wireless machines at different price points that has to be good for the detectorist. I have been out a few times with a Quest Q40 lately, lightweight, collapsable, wireless, IP66 and 2 coils for £460. For people on tight budgets it's a nice option. It's not a Deus, but the design is good, and it performs well for the price.
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Never used one so can't comment on performance, it should be OK as it's T2/F75 circuitry..
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Never used one so can't comment on performance, it should be OK as it's T2/F75 circuitry..
It's a nice machine mate, as I said, it's no Deus, but it's great for those on a tighter budget.
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But most of them are re hashes of the same thing. Normally based around the F75 / T2 circuit, originating from China.
Even some of the Yanks are coming around to your comments.
If it's not the Chinese then its the Malaysians all cheap labour.
If Minelab don't hurry up the Chinese could beat them to the party.😉
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Even if the tech isn't always groundbreaking, it's good for the detectorist to have options with better designs. It's got to be good to have more machines that are wireless and lightweight straight out the box in different price brackets surely? The hobby is about enjoyment and if the machines mean you can detect easier and for longer that has to be good?
We know the Deus was way ahead when it came out, and I have heard many comments from senior detectorists who love the lightness and ease of use, it has extended the detecting years for some!
Now, if a 60 year old person with a bad back, and a limited budget, can get a machine at a mid price that they can swing for 4 hours, that can't be bad surely, it's not all about which machine performs best?
It's about time other companies started making Deus style machines, and I am sure there will be more. They won't necessarily perform like a Deus, but surely the smarter design is good for all who enjoy the hobby?
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It makes me chuckle when reading these posts.
Does anyone remember the VW Golf advert from the 80's/90's when the young guy is under the opened bonnet of his car & he's saying to his mate yes it handles just like a Golf, brakes just like a Golf & it's fast just like a Golf, we all compare with existing machines & most often it's just like Deus.
What we now see is, nearly as light as, nearly as fast as, nearly as good as........ better value ? maybe, but who wants nearly as good as.
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It makes me chuckle when reading these posts.
Does anyone remember the VW Golf advert from the 80's/90's when the young guy is under the opened bonnet of his car & he's saying to his mate yes it handles just like a Golf, brakes just like a Golf & it's fast just like a Golf, we all compare with existing machines & most often it's just like Deus.
What we now see is, nearly as light as, nearly as fast as, nearly as good as........ better value ? maybe, but who wants nearly as good as.
I take your point Nigel, but if you simply can't afford a Deus, it's good to see that other brands are starting to follow the design principles, which means easier machines for everyone to use at various price points.
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True but a basic Deus without remote at £650 ish not a million miles away from these new machine prices & you can still upgrade it as you find funds (if you want to).
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True but a basic Deus without remote at £650 ish not a million miles away from these new machine prices & you can still upgrade it as you find funds (if you want to).
Yes that's an option too Nigel, and as a person who started with just the WS4's I often recommend it. I was lucky enough to be able to save up for the remote and my Deus is going no-where, and i'm not comparing performance here. For some people the Deus won't be an option, or they may want a starter machine before they invest heavily in the hobby. Easier machines with the modern design has to be better for everyone, whatever they want to choose surely?
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Hi Jerry are you still using the F75, ive been away for a while so just wondering .