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Gary's Detecting forum => General detecting talk => Topic started by: nailman on July 24, 2017, 03:12 pm
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Has anyone heard the rumour new Minelab out soon ?
Hope it's a revamped Sovreign type or will it be a scaled down 3030 without all the goodies, or have they beefed up the go find build quality and put interchangeable coils
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Nope, not heard that one Naily, where are these rumours coming from?
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One of the die hard Minelab guys mentioned it, I would like them to re introduce the Sovreign GT doubt it will happen, if they are bringing a new machine out there will be all the hype that accompanied the CTX 3030
Just wondered if any one else had heard anything
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Its out now look on minelab website.
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The Gold Monster. I saw that for sale somewhere. Didn't realise it was a new one.
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It's not ;)
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Aussie gold hunters on YouTube not impressed with it.
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I've seen the Detectival promotional poster on Facebook, which hints at details of the new Minelab being revealed there, so surely it can't be referring to the Gold Monster 1000, which is already available?
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Seriously though what time of name is that for a metal detector the gold monster must have taken them ages to think of that :-\
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Looks like we'll have to wait and see, the guy who mentioned it has a Minelab bush hat , gloves, waistcoat etc etc bet he has got Minelab branded boxer shorts :) ;D
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I've never owned a Minelab just looked at the gold monster on u tube looks like they,ve mated a go find with a black and decker
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I've never owned a Minelab just looked at the gold monster on u tube looks like they,ve mated a go find with a black and decker
PMSL
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Something connected with this, it seems?
http://md-hunter.com/minelabs-new-patent-a-detector-with-magnetic-field/
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Looks like it's for Gold hunting, perhaps a PI, with discrimination. Or just another patent Minelab have filed because they like to file patents.
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Just seen a post on another forum showing a minelab poster stating that the new Minelab will be unveiled at the UK Detectival in September.
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Just seen a post on another forum showing a minelab poster stating that the new Minelab will be unveiled at the UK Detectival in September.
Bring on the competition. ;) :) Jerry.
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Zzzzzzzzz Hype ::)
Why do all manufacturers do this! "sensational new metal detector" ...... Put up or shut up..
It will be a go find ,with go faster stickers ....
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You need to get the jump on your competition. What does that mean anyway ?
Another pi55ng contest.
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You're spot on rusty bucket not being a Minelab guy too bloody heavy for my disabilities, I had a look at this gold 1000 that looks like a go find control with other bits, doesn't get a good liking on u tube.
Just wished I'd got a Sovreign GT before they droped it from the range, was fitter then don't think they've done themselves any favours with the new gold 1000, how the mighty have fallen rested on their laurels
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It seems the Gold Monster 1000 isn't all it's cracked up to be. It seems this guy would rather wrap it around the nearest tree!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS3cqt2pJ0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS3cqt2pJ0&feature=youtu.be)
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It seems the Gold Monster 1000 isn't all it's cracked up to be. It seems this guy would rather wrap it around the nearest tree!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS3cqt2pJ0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS3cqt2pJ0&feature=youtu.be)
I watched one and the guy testing said buy a bounty hunter pointer you'll find more oh dear Minelab
The control on the golf z1000 looks like the go find
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the stem is straight made out of 3 screw together sections. I can't see how the length is adjustable.
So us shorties will have to slide the arm cup and controller down the stem to a suitable length.
Then there will be a big overhang of stem behind the arm cup.
I am guessing you then need to hack saw it off.
Can someone advise if this is correct.
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I made it 40 secs in. I wanted to wrap it round a tree for him, what a frustrating machine to use. No thanks Minelab.
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Rumours abound, but I'm certainly keeping my "new detector" funds in the bank until next month, just in case 8)
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I,m hoping for a super lightweight waterproof FBS machine ;), but i wont hold my breath lol
Pete :)
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I,m hoping for a super lightweight waterproof FBS machine ;), but i wont hold my breath lol
Pete :)
That would be my hope too. The CTX offers everything I want from a second machine, but I'd prefer all those features in a lighter (and ideally wireless) package if at all possible. Fingers crossed!
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A lightweight wireless CTX? £2,500.00 - £3,000.00? I'll let a few of you chaps test it first ;D
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A lightweight wireless CTX? £2,500.00 - £3,000.00? I'll let a few of you chaps test it first ;D
If that is what it is, I'm going to be very tempted, even at that sort of price tag.
I'm fully expecting to be underwhelmed at the big reveal, when it turns out to be yet another gold prospecting machine or a replacement for the Go-Find range, but we'll see...
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A lightweight wireless CTX? £2,500.00 - £3,000.00? I'll let a few of you chaps test it first ;D
If that is what it is, I'm going to be very tempted, even at that sort of price tag.
I'm fully expecting to be underwhelmed at the big reveal, when it turns out to be yet another gold prospecting machine or a replacement for the Go-Find range, but we'll see...
Never used FBS so can't really appreciate it, apart from the obvious wet sand advantages that are so well documented. Won't be long before we see the new arrival.
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I,m hoping for a super lightweight waterproof FBS machine ;), but i wont hold my breath lol
Pete :)
I agree would be nice
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If the new one has a " Magnetic Field generator " then that rules me out , I don't think it would be safe to use with my cardiac pacemaker :(
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A few more details have emerged now (scroll down for the update to the main article).
http://md-hunter.com/minelab-announces-sensation-new-2017/
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This is a image from a newspaper report about a local detectorist.
The image looks as if it was taken in the UK it is a minelab but which model
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Looks like the goldmonster?!
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This is a image from a newspaper report about a local detectorist.
The image looks as if it was taken in the UK it is a minelab but which model
Looks like the Gold Monster 1000 to me.
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Yeah that's the Black and Decker.....sorry, Minelab, Goldmonster
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I've got a feeling they'll use the gold monster model as a base and put differant operating system electronics in it
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I've got a feeling they'll use the gold monster model as a base and put differant operating system electronics in it
I hope not, that thing is offensively ugly!
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I've got a feeling they'll use the gold monster model as a base and put differant operating system electronics in it
I hope not, that thing is offensively ugly!
I know it is but theve got the factory producing the shaft, control box with go find control pad
So it makes economic sense to mr.
The new Range Rover eloquent has more Ford Fiesta parts than anything new, we will have to wait and see
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If it's a great machine it will cost a fortune, if it's average what's the point. As a detectorist I am interested to see what is coming out and I love seeing what lands on the shelves, but in truth there's a snowflake in hells chance I'll buy it. By Christmas I'm sure there will be plenty of videos for me to have a sneaky watch at while the family sleeps off the turkey, but I reckon just like the Impact, Alter 71, and others recently released or about to be, I'll be window shopping and swinging the Deus.
If I win the lottery I'll have a play with them all ;D In all honesty and simply from my own perspective I'm waiting to see what the new Quest Q40 performs like, Wireless, and telescopic, and light, lithium rechargeable for £400.00, sounds like it could be the perfect second machine for when the Mrs wants to come out to play, if it has a decent level of performance.
I realise that Minelab have a lot of fans, and for those who are desperate for a great new machine I hope they deliver.
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There's limitations to all these machines. Depth, recovery and a true metal id , it will be interesting to see what they have done to improve on these.
Mine labs biggest problem is weight.
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If it's a great machine it will cost a fortune, if it's average what's the point.
Very true.
From the limited description released so far it doesn't sound like it's going to be a flagship machine, but I suppose they'd be mad to make the CTX and E-Trac obsolete.
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They did with the sovereign and that was probably the best machine for the beach.
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They did with the sovereign and that was probably the best machine for the beach.
Yes great machine, no doubt the Minelab marketing machine will spring into action
Thank god for u tube gives you chance to see some genuine people's honest reactions to it
Not people paid to give good reviews to keep the advertising revenue rolling in
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According to this, the new machine will be a wireless 4-frequency continuation of the X-Terra range.
https://hobby-detecting.com/what-will-minelab-show-in-september-2017-in-the-uk-new-detector-2018/
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According to this, the new machine will be a wireless 4-frequency continuation of the X-Terra range.
https://hobby-detecting.com/what-will-minelab-show-in-september-2017-in-the-uk-new-detector-2018/
The X-Terra styling makes sense to keep the weight down, but will they go telescopic on the shaft? They would have to be aware of the criticism over the weight of their best performers, and the Go-Finds showed they can see the appeal of the "pack it and go" machine for those who like that approach.
Big posters advertising a "sensational new metal detector" and I get the impression that a lot of our experienced detectorists think that's long overdue from Minelab. It had better be good.
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Lets hope it has not neen designed by the toy fairy :)
Minelab have the money and resources but...to me, it appears they keep missing the point.
Personally I think all they needed to do was to bring out a lightweight sovereign and it's job done !
Good luck to them if they bring out something that is state of the art, it makes the hobby more interesting.
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MD hunter has updated his blog on the new Minelab...
http://md-hunter.com/minelab-announces-sensation-new-2017/#more-10794
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Anybody thought about the name Equinox, it's when the sun rises directly in the East and sets directly in the West.
Could be Minelab's way of telling us where it's made or everything is in balance with the machine.
Might be coincidence that they are launching it at a large rally six days before the Autumn Equinox. :P
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In fact they will be approx. a week too early for the Summer Equinox.
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According to Minelab advert in new Searcher Minelab are going to obsolete all single frequency VLF detectors.
Goes on to say new technology is about to land at Detectival. ???
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According to Minelab advert in new Searcher Minelab are going to obsolete all single frequency VLF detectors.
Goes on to say new technology is about to land at Detectival. ???
I used to work in the media advertising bussinees, because of its name and past reputation any thing produced by ' Minelab ' will be built up to be the best thing since sliced bread.
The Gold monster total rubbish according to the Australians who used it.
However I watched a Britsh dealers video this machine is the gold plated dogs dangly bits.
Having worked in advertising I for one will just hang on till proper people give use onset feedback.
Must go and photograph the new Minelab branded boxer shorts sure to be a big seller if we put the adds in the right type of publication
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They are simple reinventing themselves. Lots of new machines out the last year or so, they need to keep up or loose out massively.
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They made a massive mistake calling the latest machine the "Gold Monster" which is an incredibly boastful title for a budget gold machine when you already have more expensive units in your line that are clearly better performers. It's a bit silly to give a machine a name like that unless you know it's one of the best you can buy. Are they losing the plot?
From all that I have read over the past two years, Minelab have produced very effective machines with the CTX, E-Trac, Safari, Explorer, not no mention ones from earlier days that also led the field (Sov, Musky etc) and typically their fans have craved continued offerings that push the boundaries (and maybe don't weigh as much ;D Part of the reason why they have started to lose out ?)
After getting some very poor reviews for something called a "Gold Monster" they could be treading on really thin ice with some of the statements leading up to this latest offering. They went cheap and cheerful with the go-finds and I think it's obvious we can rule that out especially given the hype and the info so far. In my opinion it will get murdered unless it really is something DIFFERENT, and VERY GOOD !
A lot of new machines have been produced in the last 2 years, but considering Minelabs reputation and fan base, I get the feeling this is the most eagerly anticipated release since I became a part of this brilliant hobby. Regardless of anything else it feels like everyone is extremely curious to see what Minelab have done this time.
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Don't worry boys, not been sucked in by adverts.
Hope when them detector's land at Detectival one doesn't land on my new tent, will be well peeved if it does.
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I would not be surprised to see a certain detectorists set up a challenge test bed at Detectival.
It has happened in the past and many machines have failed.
Let's hope the weather is kind as there will be so many attending from around the world. ;) Jerry.
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I will be at another rally so I do hope someone video`s any tests that take place Jerry
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seen some pics this morn looks a nice bit of kit 8)
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Looks like a game changer to me :D
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Without in the field proof, nobody can say if it's a game changer.
The GoldMonster had been hyped to death and now it has already been brushed under the carpet, so to speak.
So far the only part of the "game" that I can see has changed is Minelab have finally released a machine that is not vastly overpriced.
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I have only seen one game changer in recent years and thats the XP Deus. ;)
Ok some folks will purchase the Minelab new toy and a few have placed an order.
Trouble is there were not any machines available for purchase at the dig.
To me thats crap business sense, with at least one person I know with the money waiting, who went home without a new detector. :(
Funny old world we live in these days.
Happy Hunting,
Jerry.
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Good old Face book is alive with it "wont be as good as the CTX" "not getting rid of the CTX"
take a chill pill !How stupid
No way are Minelab going to make a mid priced machine that would blow the fuses on a 2 k flagship model.
Another moan is the coil cable doesn't go through the stem !! :( >:(
These guys must be new to the hobby when I started concentric coils no VDU no GPS we had to find our own way back to the car we survived.
And are these guys forgetting the great Soverign GT the cable was wrapped around the shaft.
Can't wait for the first tests, and then genuine feedback from detectorists who do not eat sleep and breath Minelab
Rant over
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Quote JBM "Trouble is there were not any machines available for purchase at the dig.
To me thats crap business sense, with at least one person I know with the money waiting, who went home without a new detector" unquote
I guess they are simply not ready mate, and they could not pass up the chance to show so many people the new machine and get people talking. They could not pass up a chance like that, ready or not. On the video that iDetect posted the Scottish gent from ML was explaining a few of the things that will be different, but if it ain't ready then that's all there is to it.
It's better for the end user that they aren't pushing to deadlines and they will release when they are completely satisfied. Commercially speaking they have done well, that little taster has got detectorists talking about the machine and many are buzzing with anticipation. Mission accomplished.
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I have only seen one game changer in recent years and thats the XP Deus. ;)
Ok some folks will purchase the Minelab new toy and a few have placed an order.
Trouble is there were not any machines available for purchase at the dig.
To me thats crap business sense, with at least one person I know with the money waiting, who went home without a new detector. :(
Funny old world we live in these days.
Happy Hunting,
Jerry.
There were no new XP high frequency coils available at the XP rally last year either, just prototypes still being tested. Vouchers were given to raffle winners for new XP pin pointers as they too were not yet ready for sale to the general public. I believe those individuals waited over 6 months for their pinpointers. That's bad business sense.
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2 wrongs dont make a right. ;) Jerry.
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The Equinox will come with two models the 600 & 800 to me the 600 will do the job for my purpose, seen some recovery tests on the prototype they had at the Rally and it looked impressive especially for a Minelab having a quick recovery speed.
Glad to see they have done another machine to be honest makes the could be interesting to see the field results anyway, I must admit i was not thrilled with the design but i have seen worse. I used to have the old Son was a brilliant machine but it was awful for nulling over iron and suffered with a poor recovery speed.
For pasture and beach though even today there is no better machine and the BBS tones were brilliant i have never had another machine to match the old Son for tone sound. Any way back on tangent as it stands at the moment prices for the 600 i think are around 600 mark and for the 800 i have heard around 850 but these with tax duties could change dramatically.
Tin one of their videos at the announcement they did state that it would be affordable which was nice to hear XP did this with the Deus lite and then the remote separate. There is nothing like a bit of good competition though i have never had the privilege to use a Deus i have always settled for the old types like the ADX 250 etc or the Power.
Sometimes a price of 600 is even out of price range for some, I have seen prices of metal detectors rocket over the years and when prices such as 2 grand or over a grand for a machine came out this was just to expensive in my opinion. I like both makes though XP and Minelab although i have leaned more towards XP because amongst the nails as it stands XP are the best.
I hope Minelab do well and i also wonder if XP will have a reply and can you imagine if they do because design and tech wise they were years ahead that is why they have such a good reputation.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Minelab do to be honest and especially how their new machine performs in the field.
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I really hope this is a decent beach machine, being disabled can't manage the FBS machines
Just waiting for feedback from none Minelab sponsored detectorists
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Will wait for the new ctx to come long this is the equivalent of the 705
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Will wait for the new ctx to come long this is the equivalent of the 705
I should bloomin hope it isn't after that launch ???
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Will wait for the new ctx to come long this is the equivalent of the 705
I should bloomin hope it isn't after that launch ???
It pretty much is, Keith. As predicted a few weeks back, it's basically an extension of the X-Terra range. It's got interesting features, and is clearly targeting the Deus market, but the Equinox isn't going to take over from the CTX, which looks set to remain their flagship model for the time being.
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Will wait for the new ctx to come long this is the equivalent of the 705
I should bloomin hope it isn't after that launch ???
It pretty much is, Keith. As predicted a few weeks back, it's basically an extension of the X-Terra range. It's got interesting features, and is clearly targeting the Deus market, but the Equinox isn't going to take over from the CTX, which looks set to remain their flagship model for the time being.
I no I agree, as I have said all along it's going to sit under the CTX for sure. But it's far more than a 705.
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Why are all the CTX users panicking this is a replacement for the 705 with a lot more spec, people are comparing it to the CTX , the price alone tells you it's not in the same league.
Or is it just a way of telling the world you own a CTX ?
As for a Deus killer time will tell, personally I'am interested in its performance on the beach.
When I returned to detecting I was told by some club members that my Garrett ace was no good and that I wasn't detecting unless I had a Minelab!!! brand loyalty or marketing brainwashing ?
It's interesting to see that most of the members now own the Deus Or The Racer 2
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hi i think the ctx owners woulf be miffed off if the new minelab is half the price of the ctx. and as good if not better , then there ctx's would have a very low secound hand price. ..... ;D
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I don't understand how this can be seen as a replacement for the XTerra 705. They were far cheaper and aimed at the lower to mid budget people and the Minelab brand. When I was looking at my first machine many people said Minelab were best, and I could have stretched to a 705 and looked at it.
The 705 was never going to challenge the Deus, whereas the Equinox 800 does. The idea is convincing people that if they can't afford a Deus, they can have all the benefits and more, for less money. Wireless, light, multi frequency, software updates, gold prospecting and 40khz, so I see this as an attempt to undercut the Deus if your not going for FBS machines.
I suppose the Equinox 600 may fill the 705 slot, but the real flagship here is the higher end machine and I think that's the one that Minelab hope will sell to people with a decent bit of cash to spend who want Deus performance without having to spend as much money. I think it's pretty clear what the target is here.
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As one very famous comedian used to say. "Good Game,Good Game". ;D
To those getting up tight, just keep taking the tablets. :(
Happy Hunting,
Jerry.
PS Virgin site tomorrow with the HF coil. ;) :)
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Best of luck Jerry.
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There appears to be a lot of foreign video test videos on U Tube, have European countries had the model before it's been released in the UK ?
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There appears to be a lot of foreign video test videos on U Tube, have European countries had the model before it's been released in the UK ?
Well spotted Naily, now you mention it yes there are !, it does make you wonder mate. And good luck Jerry on the virgin land tomorrow.
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Good job you added the word ' land' keith :D
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Good job you added the word ' land' keith :D
Rew you crack me up mate. I don't know which one would make me more jealous of Jerry lol
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Good job you added the word ' land' keith :D
😀😀😀😀😂
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ive got around 7 detectors most are minelab or xp,but looking at this new detector this might tick a lot of boxes for me
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Looking at it am thinking its falling to bits after a few months, also if the machine happens to be knocked on the floor i can see the control box breaking,but its ok its a games chnger lol