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Gary's Detecting forum => General detecting talk => Topic started by: wickenuk on October 28, 2016, 07:49 am
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I've read posts about people turning up at rallies without headphones and it being a nuisance the noise of machines bleeping all around, having not yet been on a rally I had not thought about this and would have been one of those turning up without . I have never worn headphones whilst detecting and feel more comfortable without them ,but as I am the only person on my permission as far as I;m aware it doesn't really matter. Do the majority of members on here wear them and if so do you think that they help distinguishing between the various tones ?
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Firstly the loudspeaker on detectors are awful and give very bad quality sound and are annoying to other detectorists.
The sound quality through headphones is far superior quality and give more information than through speakers. You will miss a lot of signals on a windy day or in a slightly noisier environment.
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Always wear them! I honestly do not know how people can detect without them.
And yes, I've been on a few digs with people who refuse to wear headphones and to say it's annoying is the understatement of the decade. I'm pleased to see now that more and more rally rules state that headphones must be worn!
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Couple of fellas in my club were not using headphones. It drove me mad, so yes you would probably upset people. You may not be allowed on the rally without them. I always wear headphones. Once you notice how much better your audio feedback becomes you will most likely hate being without them.
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The use of headphones is highly advisable but obviously not enforceable as its a personal decision whether or not you want to use them. It can be seen as anti social by many around you when not using them for the obvious reason it can annoy and irritate those around you who are plagued by the noises given off by the user without headphones ,because then every one else hears it too and it must be loud if people wearing headphones are hearing it .So please have a bit of consideration for others around you when not using headphones .
The Main reason they should be worn is that without them ,unless your hearing is 100% fully accurate you can and almost certainly will without a shadow of doubt miss the very quiet whisper signals that without headphones you would almost certainly miss, and even with 100% accurate hearing, the outside noises will be blocked from interfering with your listening for signals by having headphones on, so they are extremely beneficial.
So what are you missing by not wearing them ? Well of course you will never know if you don`t use headphones. You may say "Well ,I`m finding plenty without them ". But who is to say you would not be finding more WITH THEM ?
If you own a good set of headphones finer detail of target sound can be heard where without them they will be missed and that is a fact. Noises from about you such as every day things can and will intermix with your sound coming from your speaker on your detector and can and will be masking the target sounds from your detector ,and you won`t even know your missing them because you never heard them ..
From my personal opinion its folly to not wear them but, it really is down to personal choice, but I would argue , "why put yourself at a disadvantage of finding the very things your masking by not wearing headphones " but if your happy detecting at a disadvantage please go ahead, because what your missing ,then gives me a chance to find what you missed.?
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Headphones are a must to pick up those faint signals you would not hear on speakers.
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Try the Xp blue backphones, very light, excellent sound quality and only £11.95 from Regton.
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I wouldn't go to a rally or club event without them having read this ,but on my permission with no one else about I reserve the right to please myself , having said that thanks for replying and I am now considering which headphones to buy I have a t2dse and would like to ask opinions of which headphones would match up well with this detector . I never used to use a pinpointer but having read about them on here I took the plunge and bought a nokta pinpointer which I now wouldn't be without maybe it will be the same with headphones
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I wouldn't go to a rally or club event without them having read this ,but on my permission with no one else about I reserve the right to please myself , having said that thanks for replying and I am now considering which headphones to buy I have a t2dse and would like to ask opinions of which headphones would match up well with this detector . I never used to use a pinpointer but having read about them on here I took the plunge and bought a nokta pinpointer which I now wouldn't be without maybe it will be the same with headphones
I think you will be converted - once you start, similar to the pin pointer!
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Quote wickenuk,...." I am now considering which headphones to buy I have a t2dse and would like to ask opinions of which headphones would match up well with this detector . "
This is not an easy question to answer because most people will start throwing every make and style under the sun at you mostly down to their own preference s without taking the detector asked about into consideration.
The reason I say that is because believe it or not, Some headphones which are brilliant in some certain detectors are not so good sounding on others.
I would suggest you find a pair with Mylar speakers in them, as they are usually above 100 ohm which is what you need . You also might want to take the style into consideration also, such as whether you want "on the ear " headphones or ,"over the ear " headphones. I again would recommend " over the ear ones " as they really do attempt to isolate out side noise interference. the plus also with them is they help keep the cold off your ears,a minor point I know, but relevant when detecting in quite cold weather.
What also "might" be worth doing is asking anyone with a T2 what headphones they like which could give you some idea as to which may be suitable for you.
XP back phones some one suggested are indeed very good, but they are "on the ear" headphones and they do bleed a bit from within if your volume is high ,and their acceptance from outside noise`s can be heard ,but tonally they are quite good.
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I think headphones should be made compulsory on all detectors, as there is nothing worse than listening to others detectors while detecting and it always seem's to be yellow Garrett owners which make a really annoying ding anyway. As pointed out by others you will benefit from hearing a lot more with them so there is a big plus for getting some. I prefer over ear headphones as they do help to block out the every day sounds around you and help to get into the zone so to speak.
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I think headphones should be made compulsory on all detectors, as there is nothing worse than listening to others detectors while detecting and it always seem's to be yellow Garrett owners which make a really annoying ding anyway. As pointed out by others you will benefit from hearing a lot more with them so there is a big plus for getting some. I prefer over ear headphones as they do help to block out the every day sounds around you and help to get into the zone so to speak.
It was Garrett owners at my club dig Stevie. It was a big field but wherever I went they seemed to ruddy follow me. Ding ding ding !!
Aaaarrrrgh !!
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I can see the case for compulsory use of headphones at a rally or club meet ,but surely its personal choice on your own permission , and what are you going to do about noise from pinpointers . I think that tales of being followed around by other detectorists and people rushing to an area where they think that there's been a good find has quite put me off club or rally detecting .thank goodness that i'm fortunate enough to have my own permissions even if they're not the most productive .
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It is enforceable, some Clubs now wont allow you to detect without them now, that's enforcement in my book. Good job too there is no need for anyone to have to listen to another detector bleeping away when trying to concentrate on your own.
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I can see the case for compulsory use of headphones at a rally or club meet ,but surely its personal choice on your own permission , and what are you going to do about noise from pinpointers . I think that tales of being followed around by other detectorists and people rushing to an area where they think that there's been a good find has quite put me off club or rally detecting .thank goodness that i'm fortunate enough to have my own permissions even if they're not the most productive .
Sorry If my comments weren't worded very well, I wasn't followed around by "the campanologists" it was more coincidental. When your on 300 acres and finding nothing, it's human nature to migrate to areas where people are finding Roman coins or hammys as your all hoping to find the hotspots from the start. Funny enough, on a previous club dig there was talk of a possible hotspot at the very far end of the field. At the 9 oclock start, several of the gang charged off like an advancing line of Centurions, and off into the distance they went. They came back with sod all ::) you just never know on virgin land.
My headphones broke recently, I dropped them. I carried on without them. Yes it's nice to have the freedom of no wires, but I would prefer to be tethered and have the superior audio, I really missed the headphones. Once you use them and get "in the zone" most people never go back. Ultimately we go out there to find stuff ;)
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I use them because I don't want to miss an targets. I would guarantee if I wasn't then I would miss targets so it's a simple choice for me.
Also the external noise can attract unwanted attention from walkers, cyclists and other people you don't want knowing you are detecting. I don't mind a quick chat with anyone, but when you're surrounded by 6 pikeys who've heard your detector from 200 yards away that's a different matter! also from another aspect if you are close to farm dwellings, I don't think Mr Farmer is going to be happy listening to bleeps all day, because the noise does carry an awful long way!
Probes are a lot quieter and most can be made silent and use vibrate only, or you can muffle the noise with your hand.
So go ahead, if you don't want to use them on your own sites that's fine. But don't complain when someone else comes on and cleans up and they're using headphones 8)
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, and what are you going to do about noise from pinpointers
Bear in mind pinpointers are possibly only used 5-10% of the time.
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if you want to come to visit my permission to show me your superior methods then you're welcome.
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to me that sounds a bit sarcastic mate ?
when all people have done is point out in a polite friendly way the BLINDINLY OBVIOUS benefits ?
I.E ya wanna find more stuff wear headphone /your not bothered about finding the whisper quiet signals that are normally the best finds that you wont hear by not wearing headphones
your choice
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I'm just replying to what has been said to me ,if you think thats sarcastic that's your problem mate
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9 posts and a bad attitude towards others trying to help after you asked questions . Not looking good is it ? Maybe you shouldn`t have asked in the first place if your not willing to listen to answers without getting arsey with people in return.
Questions,..." Do the majority of members on here wear them and if so do you think that they help distinguishing between the various tones ?"
On the offensive.....
" I reserve the right to please myself "
"if you want to come to visit my permission to show me your superior methods then you're welcome."
" ,if you think thats sarcastic that's your problem mate."
And all given because you didn`t like the replies people tried to give you honest advice & help you, after YOU ASKED questions .
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I wouldn't go to a rally or club event without them having read this ,but on my permission with no one else about I reserve the right to please myself , having said that thanks for replying and I am now considering which headphones to buy I have a t2dse and would like to ask opinions of which headphones would match up well with this detector . I never used to use a pinpointer but having read about them on here I took the plunge and bought a nokta pinpointer which I now wouldn't be without maybe it will be the same with headphones
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Your welcome. Look forward to hearing how you get on when you try them.
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I didn't realise that inviting someone to share my permission was being arsey as you put it , i think your post is more inflammatory than anything I've written ,i am quite prepared to take advice of anyone ,but so far I've been called sarcastic and arsey not the kind of advice i expected ,
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Enough please, be civil at all times remember what makes this forum special....
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Enough please, be civil at all times remember what makes this forum special....
Amen to that.
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The only time I did not use headphones was a beach detecting day with my old GMP, as I had them forgotten at home. Was not very pleasant with all the noise from wind and waves.
For me headphones are a must, since I cannot only distinguish and locate the signals much better, but it is also a matter of attention to other peope. There must not walk a beeping thing around.
As for the Pinpointer: Either you can make it vibrate only or you can consider, that it is much more rarely giving signals than the detector.
With the new XP pointer the external noise should also be history.
Best greetings from Germany
Olaf
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This is the very first post I've read on this forum since joining yesterday. If this is the kind of stuff and responses that goes on here then no thank you. P.S. after reading thru this post, I would never ask a question.
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goodbye
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This is the very first post I've read on this forum since joining yesterday. If this is the kind of stuff and responses that goes on here then no thank you. P.S. after reading thru this post, I would never ask a question.
Please don't judge the forum on one thread. There are always going to be conversations and comments that spark the emotions ;D This forum has been the greatest help for me since I started detecting. Most forums I have seen and tried are nothing like as helpful and friendly as this one. Stick with it buddy. Please read a few more threads and see what you think.
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This is the very first post I've read on this forum since joining yesterday. If this is the kind of stuff and responses that goes on here then no thank you. P.S. after reading thru this post, I would never ask a question.
The first post you read was from a guy who had an attitude problem. He asked a few questions and then because he didn`t like the answers ,he got arsey with a couple of guys who actually took a few moments of their time to attempt to answer him truthfully , and then he decided to throw his toys out of the pram because he didn`t like what he heard and replying with "I reserve the right to please myself ! ". Not a good way to start gelling with people I`d say if your going to bite the hand that is going to feed you.
If your new on a forum and you ask questions thinking you already KNOW the answer why ask them in the first place ?
It sounds to me like you have a similar attitude problem judging by your first post ,so maybe sticking to your American Forums like Findmall or TreasureNet, where they only answer in two or three words in a post, will suit you better. But here in the UK quite a few of us tell it as it is straight ,and to the point but at the same time without dancing around the Maypole blowing kisses to each other and Cooing in each others earole.
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^^^^ wot he said ^^^
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Nice post Peter and spot on for me.
This is the very first post I've read on this forum since joining yesterday. If this is the kind of stuff and responses that goes on here then no thank you. P.S. after reading thru this post, I would never ask a question.
The first post you read was from a guy who had an attitude problem. He asked a few questions and then because he didn`t like the answers ,he got arsey with a couple of guys who actually took a few moments of their time to attempt to answer him truthfully , and then he decided to throw his toys out of the pram because he didn`t like what he heard and replying with "I reserve the right to please myself ! ". Not a good way to start gelling with people I`d say if your going to bite the hand that is going to feed you.
If your new on a forum and you ask questions thinking you already KNOW the answer why ask them in the first place ?
It sounds to me like you have a similar attitude problem judging by your first post ,so maybe sticking to your American Forums like Findmall or TreasureNet, where they only answer in two or three words in a post, will suit you better. But here in the UK quite a few of us tell it as it is straight ,and to the point but at the same time without dancing around the Maypole blowing kisses to each other and Cooing in each others earole.
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:) Another reason to have headphones is that without them they drain the batteries quicker.